surgical procedure

 

hypothesis:

 

there's no such thing as atheism.

 

backing:

 

you, and I, are humans.  and as humans, often we hear the bottom line constant that is the phrase "nobody's perfect."

so if nobody's perfect, which is true, then how can a human with self admitted limited knowledge somehow speak beyond their own sphere of influence?  let me rephrase that:

if i am a human and i have in my mental storehouse, say for argument's sake, an extremely generous 30% of all knowledge - i am still lacking that other 70% - YET still staking a claim on the darkness of my (our?) own ignorance by speaking forth such all-inclusive statements as 'there is no god'

In other words, say I enter into a dark room taht i've never been in before in my entire life.  The room is so dark i can't see my own hand in front of my face.  Can I say, WITH FINALITY, that there is  not a chair anywhere in this room?  Or no couch?  Or no person lurking there in the darkness??  I can't.  Flip on the lights and I might be surprised at what was in there all along, for sure, but I can make no authoratative claim on what's in a dark room before the lights come on.  I can speculate, which in theological terminology is called "agnosticism," but atheism is, much to the chagrin of atheists, something unproveable and therefore BY FAITH.

it's funny then.  because the very people who hate me or are disgusted by my faith are often times leaning more on faith than I am.  I feel I have experiecne with a tangible Spirit, therefore giving backbone to my personal faith for my own heart.  They are leaning on their own understanding - not realizing the true root of their argument against faith lies in an argument that is BY faith in itself and therefore contradictory.   That's like pointing  finger at someone, scoffing at them and telling them that they "have no legs to stand on," while they themself sit there, maniacly trying to saw off their own two feet without realizing what they're doing.

 

or maybe im wrong...?

Moonz on
You should write a morning blog with your thoughts everyday I'd read it religiously
LadyGrace on
no pun intended? ;) But yeah, his blog is philosophy, without being so heavy handed you want to throw up.
Moonz on
=P
TwoStripe on
Thats why Im a nihlist. Vee believe in nawting Lebowski! (Im not really, but Joe D will think thats funny)
lisakaye on
It's amazing to me that you are able to so easily put into words these things! And it puts it all into such a perspective that no one can really argue the validity of it!
johnlanguage on
C.S. Lewis. Philosophically sound work. He wrote a lot more than the Chronicles of Narnia. Wrote a book called "Mere Christianity," a total classic. He also chaired the Medievil Literature department at Oxford University in England. Lived a fascinating life, married a woman on her death bed.....wrote a book about his life with her [after she died] (she got better for a few years) called 'A Grief Observed.' hits like bricks to the face. guys like him are responsible for spurring me on...
LadyGrace on
Lewis is amazing. He was the reason J.R.R. Tolkein converted to Christianity. I'm a big fan of Lewis though. The Screwtape Letters is a fun read.
xxkpmxx on
That's what I've been trying to say, how can we say what is and what isn't. For example, how can I, some one raised in Connecticut, never really traveling the world, only having a basic college education no masters or above and not really learning about history or other civilizations or religion say yes there is no God (I believe that there is, but for argument sake)?? How can any of us say yes or no to something that is so big and has been around for that long? I think it is quite arrogant for someone to make such claims.
TheJoeD on
It's just as arrogant to claim that there is a God. Science can be proven, but can God? Remains to be seen. For the sake of argument, if there is a god, which one is it? God, Allah , Jesus, Bill Bellamy? See what I mean? Nobody knows nothing about anything.
xxkpmxx on
Hey don't put the down the church of Bill Bellamy, their techings are wise and all knowing.
xxkpmxx on
I think there are a lot of things in theis world that can't be explained. We don't even know all there is to know about this world and the universe. Besides science has been proven wrong time and time again, sciense a long time ago isn't the same as it is now.
TheJoeD on
Well if by 'science has been proved wrong time and time again' you're talking about full frontal lobotomies and blood-letting, well i guess you're right. Can we all just agree that all Scientologists should be shot?
xxkpmxx on
You got it.
johnlanguage on
actually, science hasnt been proven. it "evolves," per say. Theories of old have come and gone. Theories that are around now will be gone eventually and disproven. The Big Bang is a theory. Evolution, no matter how popular, is still a theory. There has been no discovery of the "missing link." Science is as much by faith as faith in God is. It's a personal perception of a progression of steps that lead to a proposed conclusion based on facts or theories or personal experiences. Science is based off of human logic, a lot of it, and we all know what the deal is with human logic. Faulty by nature. it takes faith to believe in science... so welcome, my friends.... we are now officially on the same page. ;)
Timbo on
I believe in what works for me.
TheJoeD on
I rather miss these spirited debates. Now all we get are the stupid Christians who are all in your face.

I have to say, I agree now with the fact that there is no such thing as a true atheist.
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